Getting To Know Steve Lensman – UMR Hall of Fame Class of 2014

This is the 16th page in a series of “Getting to Know” interviews with UMR Hall of Famers.  This time we interviewed Steve Lensman.   I have been internet friends with Steve for over a decade.  We first stumbled over each other back in our Hub Pages (our first version of this website) days in early 2011.  Steve is one of few people that actually went to CogersonMovieScore.com (our second version of this website) on a regular basis.  Steve was involved in the naming of Ultimate Movie Rankings.com (our third and current version of this website).  So, we figured it was time to learn a little more about Steve Lensman.

Cogerson – It has always interested me in knowing which thespian made the first impact on a person. Who was the first actor or actress that you knew by their actual name?

Steve Lensman– Watching old movies on TV with my parents I’d say actors like Errol Flynn, Tyrone Power, Grace Kelly, Liz Taylor, Alan Ladd, John Wayne, Jerry Lewis were known to me as a kid before I became familiar with Bogart, Hitchcock, Welles and Eastwood.

Cogerson – What was the first movie that you distinctly remember watching as a child?

Steve Lensman That would be 1933’s King Kong. I remember seeing it as a child, way back on TV in the 1960s, and it gave me nightmares. I kept dreaming of the ape’s huge face peering thru my window!

Cogerson – Is there a person in your life that pushed you down the path of liking movies?  For me, it was my parents and my grandmother.

Steve Lensman My father was a big movie fan luckily for me, and he tended to favour swashbucklers, westerns and war films over film noir, drama and musicals. His brother was an even bigger movie fan and I would listen to them talk about films all the time. If they had been chatting about soccer I probably wouldn’t be typing this now.

Cogerson – That is awesome!  I suspect your father and my father would have agreed on the greatness of many movies.

Cogerson – When I was younger, I was convinced that Disney’s Gus was the greatest movie of all-time.  Today, I realize, though it might be the best mule playing football movie, it is not very good.  What movies did you think were awesome and now you question their greatness.

Steve Lensman- I watched a lot of horror films as a teen, some of them Italian, titles like Holocaust 2000, Cannibal Holocaust, Zombie Holocaust and the legendary Orgazmo Holocaust (okay I made that last one up), and others like Tentacles, Squirm and The Antichrist. At the time I probably thought those films were cool, but I’d be embarrassed to watch them now.

Cogerson – I bet those movies are just a bit more gorier than my Gus.

Cogerson – Besides Charlton Heston, who are your other favorite actors or actresses?

Steve Lensman – It’s almost a cliche to list the great mumbler Marlon Brando as a favourite but I liked him in films like Mutiny on the Bounty and On the Waterfront before finally seeing The Godfather on rented video during the 80s, it blew me away, great film. John Wayne is another big favourite, also Bogart, Cary Grant and James Stewart.

Steve Lensman – Judy Judy Judy! For some reason I always had a soft spot for Judy Garland, and I even found her sexy too. Grace Kelly and Ingrid Bergman were favourites too. As a teen I was a big Bruce Lee fan and Elvis Presley was my favourite singer, still is.

Cogerson –  How about current day stars?

Steve Lensman – There are plenty of actors I like today – Bruce Willis, Samuel L. Jackson, Nic Cage, Tom Cruise, Tom Hanks, Tom Hardy, Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Chris Pine, Chris Pratt, Chris Bale etc but I won’t watch everything they appear in. Depends on the film.

Cogerson –  What are your Top 3 movies of all-time? Or share as many as you are willing to share.

Steve Lensman- My top three films right now…  let’s go with Lawrence of Arabia, 2001 A Space Odyssey and my no.1 favourite, Ben Hur (1959).  Other top film favorites of mine would include, in no particular order – The Godfather, Star Wars (1977), Close Encounters, Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Enter the Dragon, Battle of Britain, The Great Escape, The Big Country, The Good the Bad and the Ugly, Monty Python and the Holy Grail, Psycho, Rear Window, North by Northwest, Forbidden Planet, Night of the Demon (1958), Duck Soup, A Night at the Opera and more recently The Lord of the Rings trilogy. Comic Book movies are all the rage now and I’m enjoying them all, keep em coming. 

Cogerson –  I know you love science-fiction movies….which movies got you going down that sci-fi trail?

Steve Lensman – The first time I saw 2001 A Space Odyssey as a young teen it bored the heck out of me and I walked out of the cinema about two thirds in. But I watched it again and again in reruns during the late 70s and it quickly became a top favourite. I remember enjoying Forbidden Planet as a youngster, and The Day the Earth Stood Still (1951). On TV back then Star Trek was a huge favourite, and I was watching Doctor Who and Lost in Space too. I read a lot of sci-fi back then, Asimov and Clarke were my favourite authors.

Cogerson – Do you remember the first R rated movie you attended in which you were allowed to purchase the ticket on your own.

Steve Lensman I think it was either Enter the Dragon or The Exorcist, let me check hang on…. it was The Exorcist. I was a young teen but tall for my age which came in handy. I had a cassette recorder hidden in a bag and recorded all the horrible bits.

Cogerson – Do you have any memorable movie experiences?   I remember seeing Porky’s in theaters.  People were laughing so hard, I thought the walls might crumble.

Steve Lensman – Cinema anecdotes… I remember seeing Young Frankenstein at a cinema in London’s West End, there was an old man a few seats in front of me and he was laughing like a hyena every couple of minutes, especially when there was a close up of Marty Feldman. Anyway his laugh was infectious and I was laughing with him even if the scene itself wasn’t that funny, that stuck in my mind for some reason.

I can’t remember which film but it was at a decrepit old cinema in the 1970s and rats were running rampant, they were chasing each other along the seats. I couldn’t concentrate on the movie. I had to lift my feet up when I saw them running towards me. Terrible.

My ex really hated people chatting when we went to the movies, often she would stand up, turn round and tell them to “shut the **** up!” and I’d sit there cringing trying to pull her down, hoping they didn’t empty their milkshakes on my head. My dear Sandra was a horror movie fan, The Shining was her favorite. We still chat.

Cogerson – This might be a tough question, at least that’s what other UMR Hall of Famers have told me, is there a movie character that best represents Steve Lensman?

Steve Lensman – Interesting question… as a teen, maybe Ferris Bueller. I was always skipping school, sometimes with friends and we’d end up at a museum or the London Zoo. No Ferrari though, we’d use the London Underground to travel and rarely paid for a ticket, so at the first sign of the train inspector we’d scarper. I remember escaping punishment from the school principal by jumping out of his ground floor window, which just made things worse. I had to invent all kinds of excuses for my odd behaviour. As an adult… I can’t think of a character… maybe.. Thor? (Stop it Steve!)

Cogerson – You could have dinner with one of the following people, Alfred Hitchcock, Ray Harryhausen or Charlton Heston….who do you pick and why?

Steve Lensman – Probably Hitchcock, he would have plenty of stories to tell and had a wicked sense of humour. All three were heroes of mine in my younger days.

Cogerson – Years ago, I was shocked to learn that you are not a fan of Forrest Gump. I had thought that it was a universally loved movie.  Turns out many people, like Flora, agree with you.  So, my question is….why do you not like it?

SteveLensman – I might have given the impression that I hated Forrest Gump, but I don’t. I just don’t love it as much as you and millions of others do. I have the film on DVD and Blu-ray. I wouldn’t own it if I disliked it. Okay it’s not a film I watch often and I’m a big Robert Zemeckis fan. It has a downbeat ending which kinda kills repeat viewings for me. And yes, I do prefer Tarantino’s best movie, Pulp Fiction.

Cogerson – We have spent many nights talking to each other during Oscar night.  Last year you did not watch the show.  Are the Oscars losing importance, or are there other reasons that staying up all night, to find the winners is no longer enjoyable?

Steve Lensman – It’s strange, something happened to the Oscars in the last decade or so, the magic has gone Bruce. Back in the 1990s it was more than just people walking up to the podium, collecting their awards and giving boring speeches. There was a variety of entertainment and it was hilarious too. Sad really. And the films that win now are the kind you’d rarely watch twice if at all. I did see snippets of last years show and this years Oscars were marred by Will Smith belting Chris Rock.

Cogerson – Alfred Hitchcock’s Vertigo is considered by smarter and more movie knowledgeable people than us, to be the best movie ever made.   It would not even make my Top 5 Hitchcock movies….being the huge Hitch fan you are, what do you think?

Steve Lensman – Whilst I am happy that a Hitchcock movie was voted best movie ever made (at least until the next poll is taken which I think is this year), it’s not my favorite film by Hitch. There are others I prefer like Psycho, Rear Window and North by Northwest. I’m also a big fan of Citizen Kane, so if that gets back on top again I won’t be heartbroken.

Cogerson – You have taken a break from producing YouTube videos.  So, what are you doing with that extra time, and do you miss cranking out all those videos?

Steve Lensman – I find it hard to believe now that in the first few years I started on youtube I was producing 3 youtube videos every single week! Then I cut it down to 2 a week, then it was 3 videos every 2 weeks and eventually it became 0 videos a week. But I did manage to fill up that channel with over a thousand videos, he said proudly. I read a lot more now, catching up on books I’d put aside. Pay more attention to the missus. I’ve binged on TV shows I’ve missed and was hearing a lot about like Succession. I will start youtubing again probably in the autumn. I miss Bob and Flora’s reviews, not so much the videos themselves. 😉

Cogerson – Alright, to wrap up this interview, do you remember how we first met at Hubpages?

Steve Lensman – Yeah you commented on one of my hubs and then we started chatting about box office figures and the special year end Variety issues. I had a few saved from the 70s and 80s. I think you wanted box office info on some movies and were wondering if I could help. Now of course you have the ultimate box office web site with movie data and statistics no one else on the internet has. Kudos!

First communication between me and Steve back in 2011.

Cogerson – I still remember which Hub I commented on….it was your Hitchcock cameo video page.

Cogerson – I am damn glad we connected all those years ago.  I appreciate all the support and all the great movie thoughts you have shared.  Thanks for doing this, and remember…you are the MAN!

In case you missed the first interviews.

Only two more UMR Hall of Famers to interview…our latest honorees…Mike and Taylor.

33 thoughts on “Getting To Know Steve Lensman – UMR Hall of Fame Class of 2014

  1. Steve, great interview. your wonderful perspective and fund of knowledge and hard work are greatly appreciated by me. i value those embarrassing horror movies of your youth as contributing to the movie enthusiast we now enjoy. the thrill of the thrill, Yea Kong, the gift that keeps on giving. amazing you gave the incredibly slow 2001 a space odyssey a second chance, way to grow.

    1. Thank you bob cox, WoC and everyone who has posted thus far on the UMR’s latest interrogation page, it is appreciated.

      I suppose Ultimate Movie Wankings does sound a bit better than Ultimate Movie Wankers.

      bob, in 1968 Renata Adler of the New York Times wrote that Space Odyssey was “…somewhere between hypnotic and immensely boring.” Kubrick and Clarke laughed all the way to the bank, the film made a shedload of money.

      More cinema anecdotes – I remember water drip drip dripping on my head at one crappy cinema I went to aeons ago and it wasn’t even raining outside. I had to move to another seat and pray the ceiling didn’t fall in. It was probably that rat infested cinema, you can hear the rodents squeaking as you walked in… aaah good times.

    2. Hey bob cox…thanks for checking out Steve’s interview. I think there are lots of people that do not like A Space Odyssey. One of my former loves of my life….thought the movie was so boring…she used it as a way to fall asleep. Glad to see you doing well and glad to see you commenting. Hope your weekend was awesome.

  2. HI AGAIN BRUCE: Thanks for your multiple replies.

    The Cogerson/Lensman interview seems (deservedly) to be drawing a whole wave of comments and is currently your chart-topper. Actually the Rat stories first from Steve and now from you keep reminding me of something I was trying to forget.

    As you know Steve and I are great Brexit supporters. The guy who made Brexit happen was British prime minister Boris Johnson and unfortunately Boris was driven from power a few weeks ago. There had been pressure on him for some time to go but he clung on stoically for a long while – like Sly in the ring against Ivan Drago!

    However matters came to a head when one third of Boris’ government walked out on him over a 12 hour period and effectively collapsed his administration so he finally resigned.

    Our politicians insult each other just the way yours can do in the US: look at the insults that first Hilary and The Donald hurled at each other[Lock her up! lock her up!] and then Biden and Trump did the same.

    Well once it emerged that droves of his government were deserting Boris the Labour opposition leader Sir Keir Starmer got up in the House of Commons and proclaimed in a speech “The sinking ship is deserting the rat!”

  3. HI BRUCE

    Yes WH: I knew about Steve and Judy. It figures actually as it was probably The Wizard of Oz that sold her to him.

    He likes ‘fantasy’-type characters such as The Tin Man/The Scarecrow/and The Cowardly Lion running through his movies.

    As well as that in the movie Prof Marvel aka The Wizard was known too as The Gatekeeper and that would have drawn parallels in Steve’s mind with Yog-Sothoth who was the Gatekeeper to the Gods and the grandfather of The Great Cthulhu in the H P Lovecraft science fiction stories.

    1. Hey Bob….I guess the Judy trivia slipped through my memory bank. Thanks for the kind words about the interview with Steve. I am shocked that a year went by since doing Katie’s interview and Steve’s interview. My granddaughter is eager to earn a UMR Hall of Fame status…if only to get an interview. Good stuff as always.

  4. Steve – love it! I am glad you stopped Bruce from naming it Ultimate Movie Wankers!

    In all seriousness, congrats on your long overdue interview, it is a great read.

    1. Bruce the actor would probably still call it that – he likes that sort of language!

  5. I’m back. Been awhile since I was here. Granted it took a little birdy in my e-mail to get me here. Glad to see another UMR Hall of Famer getting an interview. Nice job on getting to know Steve better. I can not believe it has been 6 years since you gave me my “HoF” status. That being said I bow to Steve’s greatness as a first ballot Hall of Famer. Good information here. As for Forrest Gump, a good movie but not an all time classic in my book. Congrats on your interview.

    1. Hey SteinHoF16. You are 100% correct your interview is by far the best of the bunch. I just did not want the other HoFers to know…but now that you have let the cat out of the bag….I guess the others can handle the truth….lol. Good to hear from you. Hope all is going well. Good comment.

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